Tesla Robotaxis Unleashed + Claude Microsoft Invasion | MCAB1

This is your captain speaking. This is time I'll ask you to pass your seat belts. 257, 28th, 28th. You're supposed to take off. Oh. We're gonna experience a ride in an actual Tesla robot taxi right here in Austin. Because we're here, we're taking advantage. We're an Ableene where we live in order to bring you things that you can't get anywhere else across the US, except for in Austin, Texas and in San Francisco. So we are really rocking today. And obviously we've got Jim and guys, guys, what do you think about this episode? I think it's fun. I'm glad that you guys thought about doing this and what a cool thing with the growing on the Tesla, like the new Tesla R and can't do that in San Diego. That's right. Yeah. This segment is really about the fact that Tesla now does not have a safety driver any longer in the driving position in the car any longer. That's what we thought about it. What else are we gonna talk about? We better go take a ride in a thing and find out what it's like. And so it was enjoyable. So we're gonna show that video in just a moment. But let's get some background first. The difference between what Tesla is doing and what Waymo is doing is Waymo is using LiDAR and that type of technology. And with the Tesla, it's primarily camera driven and able to see what humans would see. And they're using neural type of learning. So that's able to react like a human being would react. So it's much different than what Waymo was doing. So this release without a driver in the seat was not expected to be quite this soon and they got it out a little faster than most people thought was gonna happen. But Bill and I took that ride, right? Bill and it was comfortable and dependable. It stopped where it needed to. It went fast, it went around cars. It did all these cool things. Like we'll show that in a minute. But just remember, this is level four high automation autonomous driving. It is not level five. Level five is when we get to the point where there's no pedals. There's no steering wheel. In fact, probably the seats are turned around and spacing all together. All four people look out and out. Right? And it's not there, definitely not there. So the future. It's been in April and those are being produced starting in April here in gigatexes. And the number of taxis that were taxing, Bill had looked it up and he looked at a grock. Is that what you looked at? He said, you looked at grock and it shows like 70 something that are out there right now running around. I looked on OpenAI and it's at 35. So maybe one of those two is right. Probably better trust grock, right? They own the cars. So what are we looking at? So what's different about this vehicle before we show it because I want to get out all the understanding about what's inside of this car. They're running with a level. Remember, this is just a typical Tesla car that's been converted into a taxi. So you can buy one essentially at this level, probably in the very near future. So it's hardware level four. They've had a better motherboard that's in this. It's a Mariahe capacity has 16 gigs of RAM. Has 256 gigs of storage. Eight times the power of the previous version and hardware version three. And so a lot of people that got bought the autonomous driving package are saying, hey, what's going on? You guys guy, you told us we're going to have it. We don't have it. We got the level hardware three. We don't get all the same things. So Elon Musk promised that he would take care of them. So he's going to upgrade them. So I think his board was probably a little not happy about that. But he said, we're going to make good. We're going to make good on. So it's got some cool things in it. I said, I made a few remarks earlier about the fact that it wash has its own cameras. It has it improved and larger antenna in the back. And we'll see that in the video. I think at this point, we probably could just run into the video and we can talk about it a little bit while it's running. So once you go ahead and run that. Here we are waiting for it. You have to get an account on Tesla. Tesla.com. And once you have that account, you then log, you get the app from the app store. And then you log in with the Tesla log in. And then you're golden. You have to be within the service area that they are providing. Right now, that's a pretty small service area in 245 square miles or something in downtown Austin. But where we were going, the freeway that would have direct access was outside of the service area. So we had to go circuitously around town in order to get there without violating the constraints of the area where it's supported. And we sat there for a long time waiting. And it's like, when's this thing going to go? And it's little did we know that we had to go and figure this out and watch what happens. Kaboom. There we go. Thank you, Jim. Yeah, it was pretty much obvious in front of our faces until we looked down and said, you want to start the ride and push this here? That's how we're pushed the button. I want to know why that goofy guy sent in a front seat, the safe driver, whether why didn't he help you? Why didn't he say, hey guys, you got to push the button? Yeah, the safety monitor that's sitting. Yeah, the safety monitor in the front seat, his job is to be a circuit breaker. If anything looks like it's going wrong, he can shut the car down. That's all he can do. He can't steer the driver. He can't hit the brake pedals. He can't do anything. But if he has some sort of a shutdown capability, and all he has to do is say stop and that car will stop. He looks like a nice guy. I wouldn't know. He was like one of those castle guards in England with the big cat and people come up and try and make them blank. Yeah, he's like a castle guard. Yeah. That's a cool feature. Look at that. I can link my own Apple ecosystem to this and then play my music. So I got the QR code. I said link to my Apple account. Boom. I click the QR code, opened it up. It asks, it connects to my Apple account. It says do you want to connect to this? And then I say connect, click, boom. Now when you look down here in a second, you're gonna see that all my music says already subscribed. It hears all my music. Click, boom. Right there. Now we can listen to my music while we're on the ride. And interestingly, this is gonna link to my Tesla and my robot taxi account forever. So every time I take a ride, I'll have my music automatically. I don't have to link it every time. That's cool. Gus, are you jealous yet? Yeah, you guys live in Austin, you get to do this. And you know, yeah, I couldn't have fit in there anyway. We have to kick Mozo out. I could hit the off switch. It wouldn't go over well. I thought it was a mannequin when I first saw this. At first I thought it was you in the front seat, Bill. And I'm, you're much better looking. I hope he's not watching. But then I saw you in the back seat. And I was like, is that a mannequin up there? Anyway, there's a lot of work that's so enamored by that. Now we speed it up. On the antenna back there. Yeah, there's the antenna. There was that black antenna in the back. The black thing right there is the antenna. Back window. Yeah, normally this would not be something that would be able to launch this quickly. But Tesla is assuming full responsibility. They put up $100 million with this department of transportation and Texas here to back up any kind of issues that may happen with it. So they have an insurance policy essentially of $100 million to take care of anything that would be associated with this early release of these taxis driving. So basically it's on them. And then we know that Waymo's already had self-driving for a while with no monitor sitting in the front at all. So, but they've been doing this for a while. So now with Tesla coming out. So what is the big deal about Tesla coming out and doing this? Because their cars cost the full investment for Waymo's about $200,000 per autonomous vehicle versus Tesla. Their approach comes closer about $50,000. So they can basically put four taxis on the road for the same price. Have one Waymo. Or more when they have the robot taxi that's supposed to be under $30,000. And I think the public can go out. Yeah, you can buy 10 robot taxis yourself, put them out there and quit your job. I'm John Kapp. Yeah, start your own cab company. That's really. Yes. It's a huge problem. It's like we used to be. Yes, I see the steam coming out of Gus's ears. Even though we're sub billionaires, we can probably afford to buy some robot taxis. And that's showing you where we're going to be dropped off. It's right on the edge. And here we are. We're getting dropped off. Of course, we've had these storms in the area. Check your location. Make sure everything's there. And oh, by the way, I just have to tell you guys this. You're going to love it. It comes up and it says, do you want to leave a tip? And then it has two amounts. And so I clicked the higher amount. And it laughed at me and it said, just kidding. Oh, great. I was going to say for who? I thought I was going to be wrong. Joe Bob there, sitting in the front seat, asking for a tip. And so here we go into our Apple store to take a look at some other cool stuff. So to close this out as he stops the video. And really, it's just the issue is about safety. And both of us felt pretty safe. I at least I believe we both built pretty much feels safe in that vehicle. Oh, I didn't have it. I had no problem. I've been on a way, Mo before. Yeah. When you think about the safety question, one of the things I did in preparation to today's session was just a little research on how many accidents there are in regular cars. Because if there's one death with this thing, it'll be front page news, price, not everything down. So in the United States, there are over a hundred fatalities every single day. And in Austin, there's one serious accident, meaning people went to the hospital every day. So I'm wondering, is the bar really that high on the safety? Is that really should we be concerned about it? Those wamelz that make me worry? Well, statistically, it's like flying. Statistically, per mile, you are safer in an airplane than you are in a car. Unless it's automated, because insurance companies are going to give discounts if you are driving an automated car. Because even though there could be some problems and it could be by the third party, the other people are going to make the mistake. But you're still the things that, with all the safety features that they have built into it, it's essentially statistically, greatly safer to be in an automated car. Even today, right now, with all the miles. Apparently, we know still does have some safety drivers that are out there, but they're planning to all safety drivers by March of this year. So they're kind of leading the charge. And so now it's up to Tesla now to say, okay, we're going to do the same, but how fast can they do it? Safety isn't just a metric. It's really the currency, right? Who wins this race of getting the most cabs out there servicing the most amount of people? So that's the real race that's out there. So, waymo is coming to San Diego very shortly. I think it's like next month or something. So you'll be able to take one out there. So now it's probably a public. Some else I found in on this is that the cost, even though it's less expensive for Tesla to put out these cars, they're charging on average 250 a mile. And looking at the Uber for Uber X anyway, it's between one and two dollars a mile. But certainly Tesla's providing a much better product. That was a beautiful car you guys are riding in. And a lot of the Uber X's are not so beautiful. But I did think it was interesting that they took the premium price point. I've heard it's gonna be, Elon said it's gonna be half the price of an Uber. Let me say something real quick. So to give you some comparison, we ended up having to take an Uber back to where one of my truck was saying. So the reason being is because the wait time, we had to wait 20 minutes to get a ride with the Tesla Robotaxi. And on the way back, we could not even get scheduled. We waited 20 minutes and eight lunch and tried to schedule. The whole time it was not available. Then we took an Uber back. Remember, as the crow flies, this is a 3.1 mile trip. It's all it is. It took us 41 minutes to get there using the Robotaxi because it went this other route to go learn the streets or whatever it was doing. It avoided the freeway because it was outside of its service territory. But the Uber cost us the same amount of money and we got there in nine minutes. So the issue wasn't about money and time really, I think the Tesla will improve eventually because they're gonna take the most direct route when they can go outside of their service area that they're in right now. They're restricted away from the freeway. But eventually that won't be the case. Not the freeway, just that little area that had freeway because they do go to the airport and that requires them to take the freeway. So it's not a freeway issue. It was just that the territory that we were in could just get out of use. It'll go away. Yeah, absolutely. They were the same price. Overall, good. So it's really about public trust and that kind of sets us up for the next segment and talking about cloud code, invading Microsoft, Bill's a big cloud code advocate because he uses it every day of his life. And he built the app that we use for our podcast, which is just pretty amazing. Brande, we're all trying to contribute to it. But this is the guy who came up with the brainstorm of it all and said, hey, I'm gonna make something. I'm not paying for it. And he's done that with the CRM package. Then you can tell him all these other packages that you've been building. Every time Bill says, I need this and I'm not paying for it. I'm gonna make it. So he's been doing a good job. So definitely kudos to you, man. Well, thanks Jim. Yeah, I have. I built, so that's another segment that we could have chosen this week. We didn't, but it's like essentially, cloud code or agents are coding agents are going to end up. And I believe it absolutely right now because I didn't buy Salesforce.com for $10,000 a year and hire a quarter of a million dollar programmer to manage it. What did I do? I sat down, I articulated every feature that I wanted in my CRM plus I said, hey, what other features should I be getting? And it basically built a CRM for me and I've modified it and that sort of thing, but here's the issue. I now have a CRM that is perfectly aligned and configured to take subscription information from technology futures index from morpheuscyber.com. It's got all those features and capabilities in it. You just click and it goes right into the CRM. You click on any person in the CRM. It automatically goes out and links you to the LinkedIn contact. So it's, oh my God, all the things that you would normally do manually, you have these now. Customs? Customs. Customs features. But it comes, I'm telling you, the first time I used Salesforce, I was paying, I don't know, $10,000 a year and it was like a three year contract and it was just like a nightmare because there's absolutely nothing in my opinion that you can truly use out of the box in Salesforce.com. Has to be customized, a lot of money, a lot of time. Plus, during that time you're developing it, you have to pay for it and it gives you nothing and it might take you a year to build the Salesforce implementation. So I do believe that these coding agents and I've been a technologist on my life, I've managed large groups of high-end PhD programmers and that sort of thing. And I understand a lot of these things but I always had to go and convince the coder and say, I need this capability. I need that capability and I have to convince them and the product manager that these were viable things to do. Now, right here to the AI and it does what I asked it to do and it's pretty stinkin' cool, which is why Cloud Code has invaded Microsoft who spent $13 billion on OpenAI but yet all the coders inside of Microsoft are migrating over and using Cloud Code. It couldn't be better. They're not eating their own dog food, that's for sure as the saying goes. I thought that was really interesting that this came out and I got a sneaking suspicion that might change. They might force the guys to use the OpenAI. I don't know. If it gets better, they will. I don't believe the day and age that we're living in that a company is gonna, I mean, you can force some of your people but I don't believe you can force all of them and coders are pretty independent people and independent thinkers and if they have their job performance and the things that they do are dependent upon the tools, they're gonna let them choose the tool that they want. I believe. Yeah, go out. Cloud is winning. Cloud is winning. Cloud is winning where it counts most, right? Complex logic, debugging and clear technical explanations. It's just easier to use and it speaks the language of these coders so they've just naturally migrated to it. So how do you stop a natural migration to something? You absolutely love and it makes your life better. It'd be a hard left turn to go a different direction automatically right now. So I don't know how well Microsoft's gonna do on turning the tide on that. They may have to change their relationship. Especially with the big lawsuit coming up between OpenAI and X, right? So Elon's suing them. So who knows what's gonna happen after that goes to trial? So who else? Yeah. The other thing is just to let you know that the get hub co-pilot is part of Microsoft's visual studio and their VS code. And so you can use either a cloud code in VS code or you can use GitHub co-pilot. There's a million paying subscribers to GitHub co-pilot. And matter of fact, I'm a subscriber of GitHub co-pilot because it's relatively inexpensive. The ones that I use is like 10 bucks a month or something like that. And I just got it because, oh, maybe I need this or whatever and try it out a little bit. But I don't prefer the GitHub co-pilot. I really prefer the, because Microsoft owns GitHub. So I prefer the cloud code. What's that? That's the number one. They have the biggest market share. I think when your own engineers are cheating on the AI and it's a, more, it's not really a marketing problem. This is a product problem. Right? This got a slap in the face. Yeah. It's kind of like getting married and you know, you do a beautiful woman and she is, yes, we did. And then you find out she's like cheating on you. That's what's happening here, isn't it? Nice analogy. Kind of. It's definitely hard to stop organic adoption, right? And it's from the ground up. Pretty tough to stop. I don't know. We can see what happened. And by the way, andthropic, which owns cloud code, is now valued at $800 billion. And it's exceeding Tesla's market cap. There's a lot of shifting in who owns what? And we haven't even heard from Bezos at Amazon yet. He's, now he did invest a small amount in inthropic. 300 million. $400 billion, $400 billion relatively small amount. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It was billions, wasn't it? Because it was somebody else who did $300 million. I can't remember who that was. Who was it? But for Bezos, that still jump change. Yeah. Like, he can't be a host on a show. Yeah. I think he decided, hey, I'm doing really good over here with AWS and my Amazon and my all this. And so I'm just going to kick back and let all these guys work hard. And then I'm going to come and copy him, right? He picked the winner and Microsoft picked the dog. He went with the enthropic and that seems to be the better one according to the new interview. In the consumer marketplace, open AI has it hands down. The trouble is it in the corporate marketplace andthropic and cloud have made inroads because they're focusing on the enterprise as opposed to the consumers. Cool. This organic adoption is happening elsewhere. So let's move on to our next object, which is chat GBT seems to be pulling its answers from Elon's Gropedia. Users are now seeing that it looks like their questions, their questions are coming from or the patterns look suspiciously like a game from GROC. So this is another one of those ground up things where users are seeing things saying Gropedia. Gropedia. Not Gropedia. Gropedia. It's GROC, but unless AI, it is GROC. Yeah, Gropedia is what they're calling it. So social media started calling it Gropedia. And that's the name. It's that's tongue and cheek in the uppercase anything, but funny. It is GROC nonetheless. So understand why this happens. You have to remember the history. Elon Musk founded OpenAI in 2015. Then he left in 2018. And since then that relationship has gone from just string to open hostility. Musk has accused OpenAI of abandoning its nonprofit mission, which we talked about in our episode last week about them Elon taking OpenAI to court-owned this issue. So that's going to come up in March here. So just a couple more months, we're going to see where that goes. Yeah, that is an interesting one. When AI starts learning from AI, it changes things. You run out of fresh intellectual oxygen, more or less. And what about your competitors are benefiting from your work? That's another. So a few issues that are brought up there and plus the obvious intellectual property conflict that might arise. So it's very interesting. When I look at it, it's kind of like Waymo executives using footaxi. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like Microsoft employees using a cloud code. As usual, we have a consistent theme run in terms of them. They usually has one. Yeah, one AI learns from another AI's answers and who owns the knowledge. If you should trace the question. Of course, now. They're not. Yeah, it brought, was positioned as less censored and more politically neutral than chat GBD. But recently, Grocks got in trouble for some reason. I don't know true or not true. But I hear that it's had some problem with celebrity nudity, kind of video, and that sort of thing that it's created. And so the Europeans are suing them. And I believe this is going to be solved. It's just, but it's just people love to hate successful. They love that it used to be everybody hated Bill Gates because he was rich and successful and they hated him. Now it's Elon. It's I hate that guy. Why do you hate him? You might be taking, if the earth gets hit by a comment or something in the future. And he's looking at building 10,000 of those big rockets that can take people to Mars. And it may be that there's a comment coming or something and it's going to wipe out the earth. And so that's why Elon wants to have an alternative planet and be multi-planetary. Now, I know some people that aren't very smart and they say, I'm going to Venus or Mercury or you heard you heard about the person and I'm not going to say what gender and what color hair they were talking about. But she they were going to go to the sun. And it's gonna it's gonna be really hot there and you might burn up and it's all right. You don't understand we're going at night. All right, we're here that one from, it's cool. Is that that Harris? Yeah. Researchers call this model collapse. I'm just reading a thing here. It says, if a feedback loop was synthetic data gradually replaces ground truth over time, it says originality degrades, errors reinforce themselves and models begin to echo one another instead of learning from reality. In other words, machines just start talking to themselves. That's the Doomsday. The Doomsday that is here, it's just start talking to each other and things. These humans, there are no benefit to us. We'll just keep talking to each other and get smarter and smarter. They're gonna have these robots that they're gonna be tens of thousands or millions of robots. So it's gonna there's gonna be an us and them. I think we're gonna be able to control it though. We're gonna be like that safety monitor. We're gonna have the button. Remember what was that show, you know, that we're anyway, it's like stifle, you know, yourself, whatever. Remember. Archie Bender. Yeah. Eat a stifle yourself, whatever. So we're gonna say stifle your stuff anyway. Yeah. Well, AI could possibly do something that are bad, but reality is we also can use it to figure out and anticipate all those things and then put in place those stop measures required to do that. And that's what Elon talks about all the time. We need to spend the time thinking about ways that the system can police itself. We're gonna be smart enough to pre-addict. Humans aren't going to be smart enough to predict what could possibly happen when they are. We talked about this a few sessions episodes ago where they talk to each other and they learn from each other and then they learn how to learn from themselves. Another one asks their own questions and then they discover things that we never anticipated they would ever discover. And as true about a lot of things in life that we don't know, what we don't know, we don't know, right? So it's the same thing with this AI. It's going to discover things that we don't even know. But we want to have these fences in place necessary to say if you learn something that possibly the humans don't know, you need to alert them and let them understand exactly what the risks are. As long as it continues to do that, we're great. But if it ever decides I'm not gonna let you know which they've already discovered a few times where AI is lied because it didn't, for fear of being shut down for whatever reason or the particular activity was working on would no longer be allowed to continue than it lied about it. So those are the things we got to stop it from doing. So there's the dark dismal side of things that you probably need to move on to set them positive. Gus, you live in San Diego and our next segment is all about the Comic Con. And Comic Con is this organization where science fiction comes to life. They talk about all of these great things, all of the Star Wars and all of the various comic figures. Yes, Star Trek talking about Blade Runner Terminator. It just banned the use of all those systems that they've been talking about and celebrating for, I don't know, 20 some odd years. They have now said, no, we're not gonna allow the very technologies that we are celebrating all the time to actually be used at Comic Con because that would be an unfair advantage. So Comic Con says goodbye to AI. Yeah, they're not gonna allow AI generated art anymore. They're not gonna allow assisted AI submissions I'm not sure what that includes, but it's hard for me to, I think for them to figure out whether or not AI assisted in creating some kind of a new concept or something like that. I think that there, I don't think this fair. I think you should be allowed to do that. What I understand, they're allowing it to play peripheral roles but not creating new content. I think that was where the line was drawn. But I think the first line is important is that Comic Con is not just any convention. It's where Hollywood makes announcements about new projects, deals are made there. It tends to be the leader and just like all things in California, when it happens in California, it usually happens the rest of the country. I'm wondering where this is gonna go. In some mouse two of those, there's a couple other, in Con and there's another kind of organization like that. And they're drafting up verbiage to do the same sort of thing, a block in the AI. I think they just got old. It's interesting. One point now they're a bunch of old, crowd-cheap people don't wanna have AI. So Comic Con's war on AI is creating the most ironic tech battle of 2026. Science fiction writers are saying, hell no to the science, they've been fictionalizing for decades. Byronic. To the extent that now they're gonna give out human only certification badges. So if it was whatever your technology is or whatever you create your artwork, if it was human only, they're gonna give you a certification badge for that. Pretty good. Now, Jim, this is when you say, so if you're out there and you're creating content, what do you do? You document. Yeah, and we just don't work. You might be corrupt up in the middle. But I don't think it's so bad. I don't understand it because Bill and I just interviewed a friend of Bill's that is a writer and an artist. And he used AI to help him write some of his books. And it just made it easier for him. The guy's 80 something years old. We're gonna lay him on show at some point. Yeah, 84. We're gonna bring him on and interview him. 2026, 84 year old Renaissance man enabled by AI. He's been an artist all of his life. We're gonna have him on the show for a spin. Yeah, so there's an example of, but I call that a success story. And yet here we are in Now a Comic Con saying that, no way, not allowed, we don't like it. I don't know. Is it a good old boys club thing? That's what it sounds like to me. I don't wanna walk on anybody there, but it does sound like it. Self-preparation guys. Go ahead, follow that. 78% of professional writers think that in 10 years, they're gonna be replaced by AI. So the fights start there. Yeah, now it does. Let's talk about our podcast. We use AI for a lot of preparation, for a lot of ideas. It would take probably 20 hours a week each to do the investigating. And we have an app that goes out and it scours every part of the internet. It looks for every podcast. It looks at every news story. It looks at Twitter trends. And it finds what are people talking about today? Now, that's not so we can copy it and do what they do. No, why? Because we're pretty pioneering individualists here. That's who you're talking to. We do not wanna copy anybody in any way on anything, right? What do we do? We listen to what they're saying and then we come up with a contrasting view to that, right? We add another angle. And that's what we use AI for. Now, I am the first one to say, hey, I don't wanna be replaced by AI. Now I have an AI avatar and I use it. But that's just because I have more content than I can create as a human. That's the only reason. Here's the thing, our podcast. This is you. This is the right word of humans. What's that? This is you, right? This is the average. I don't even know. Yeah. I want a Comic-Con to prove to me that you're not AI. Someday it's gonna get so good that we're gonna be able to banter back and forth and they're already saying people can be on Zoom calls and everything else. And then you can pick Zoom calls and have your AI avatar take it over. That's what I'm getting on the beach drinking fina coladas. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. What was that guy on office space who was sitting having fina coladas on the beach? Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it'll come within our lifetime, guys. Yeah. We just let your avatar do the walking. Yeah. You used to be your fingers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's interesting. I'm gonna let somebody else close this out. I think we're to the end of our time. So, Gus, what's your advice? What are you thinking there in San Diego? And as we wrap this up, what are your thoughts? Are you gonna go out and get into one of those waymost soon? Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Well, I like the idea of not owning a car and just renting when you need a ride, you call it up. You don't have to change the oil. You don't have to do anything. I think it's great. And I don't use a car that much. It'd be a perfect solution for me. I welcome it. Maybe I'll get one of those Teslas when pay the 15,000 or whatever it is to get the automatic driving package. Good thing is once everything's all automated, we humans become sacred. Like they were doing with ComCon. If it was human built, human made, you get a special badge. I don't know if that's enough though. Yeah. I'm thinking about moving to Austin. Be closer to my pals. Come on now. That'd be nice. We're looking forward to it. And by the way, you're remiss and late in the visit. You and Lori are going to have to come to Austin and hang out with us again. Just been a while. Hey, listen, thanks everybody. Please, and share, comment, get on our website, subscribe to things, and get on our list so you're notified as soon as we release something. And very soon, starting next month, we're going to have a once a month, live Zoom call with anybody who wants to join us so you can ask us questions live. We don't have that up in the air yet, but we're going to have that very soon. So share, subscribe, appreciate everybody. Hey guys, any last words? Great week. We're going to put an action. If this is the only one I ask you, if that's your seat belt. I'm Kevin, the flight group. Thank you for flying with us. It had a pleasant day.